Curse

Bright Star Shine · Aug 03, 2011, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by loshon

SF damage cap?

Implying you have SF up when killing the monk lord?

impulsion · Aug 03, 2011, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Sniper Support doesn't ignore armor

Messager De Grenth · Aug 03, 2011, 05:37 PM // 17:37

You drop SF to use it, of course

Bright Star Shine · Aug 03, 2011, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Messager De Grenth

You drop SF to use it, of course

No, you don't even have SF up when trying to kill the monk lord, there is no reason to... Signet goes through SF and all the other skills except Spear of light aren't against you and Spear of Light is the least of your concerns when killing the monk lord... You don't use SF once when trying to get the monk lord to die, it would be a waste of energy tbh..

Messager De Grenth · Aug 03, 2011, 07:16 PM // 19:16

How many damage you do after damage reduction ?

Honor to increase Snow Storm damage ?
EoE and kill mobs around ?
Smooth Criminal to disable reversal of fortune ? Even if it's luck it seems less about luck than Dshot.

impulsion · Aug 03, 2011, 08:00 PM // 20:00

I tried EBSoH with snowstrom oni and q7 dagger and it's not enough. DShot = 20sec deactivation, and that wasn't long enough so smooth criminal won't work.

Messager De Grenth · Aug 03, 2011, 08:12 PM // 20:12

The lord has only 4 spells so you can disable reversal of fortune twice in a row much more easily than with Dshot and you can use it to gain some energy in other places.

impulsion · Aug 03, 2011, 08:14 PM // 20:14

You can only disable monster skills twice in a row with smooth criminal.

Black toby · Aug 03, 2011, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by impulsion

You can only disable monster skills twice in a row with smooth criminal.

let's dshot him twice (got reflex !)

Messager De Grenth · Aug 03, 2011, 08:35 PM // 20:35

I mean, you disable reversal of fortune for 20s and get Reversal of fortune in your skillbar during this time. 20s later you may use a powerstone and pray again to disable Reversal of fortune again^^

Maybe a useful skill to steal from one mob around ?

DeVerseBakker · Aug 03, 2011, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Is it possible to put Tranquility somewhere in range, to make RoF expire quicker, or otherwise, if possible, you can use Exhausting assault if you have a lead attack(which I doubt).?

and since RoF gives health gain, maybe predatory season is an option to reduce the healthgain he gets from RoF?

Windbow · Aug 03, 2011, 08:55 PM // 20:55

You said 20 sec from smooth criminal isn't enough but besides luck with a pstone, might it be possible to wait for recharge since he won't fully heal in 10 sec will he?

Bright Star Shine · Aug 04, 2011, 07:09 AM // 07:09

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Originally Posted by Windbow

You said 20 sec from smooth criminal isn't enough but besides luck with a pstone, might it be possible to wait for recharge since he won't fully heal in 10 sec will he?

When Mike dshotted him that one time (I was there) it took the lord less than 10 secs of spamming Reversal like a maniac to get back to ~80% hp (he doesn't use Reversal above 80%)

Also, keep in mind that he only had 1 spare skill slot, max 2 (he claims he doesn't really need HoS, but I can guarantee he'll die without it) to kill him... And Snowstorm is a must.. So gathering mobs and EoE bombing isn't really a good idea...

Also, the duration of RoF isn't the problem, at all, it's the heals he gets from DF...

James Pontikka · Aug 04, 2011, 10:09 AM // 10:09

could EVAS and a dream rider kill him?
celestial ox or an archer summon look like pretty good choices

Messager De Grenth · Aug 04, 2011, 03:36 PM // 15:36

What about Radiation field ? You do nothing but spamming it so you never trigger reversal ( no summoning stone) so the lord is only healed every 8s when he renews reversal ( unless he's spamming it even when it is already active).

Radiation field is approximately equal to permanent 6 health degeneration over the time.

The lord will be healed of 60 every 8s which is a little less than 4 health regeneration. So if the lord do not spam reversal of fortune even when never triggered and if you can handle the energy loss (no zealous weapon can be used) you should be able to kill him this way.

Bright Star Shine · Aug 04, 2011, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Natural regen says hi....

Messager De Grenth · Aug 04, 2011, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Following
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:Boss-like_foes
and
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Health_regeneration

The lord has no inherent regeneration and automatic regeneration won't activate since he's using skills on you.

So this should work but maybe I'm wrong since i didn't check in game.

Family Kejima · Aug 04, 2011, 07:36 PM // 19:36

They do have +3 health regeneration like infernal wurms in FoW.

Bright Star Shine · Aug 04, 2011, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messager De Grenth

Following
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:Boss-like_foes
and
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Health_regeneration

The lord has no inherent regeneration and automatic regeneration won't activate since he's using skills on you.

So this should work but maybe I'm wrong since i didn't check in game.

Try killing the lord, he HAS natural regen... I know DoA well enough to know shit like that...

Messager De Grenth · Aug 05, 2011, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Sorry, i were just trying to help.

I dunno exactly how he would react but if you pop a Celestial Rooster on the top of the trench

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Celes...ooster_(summon)

And if he's only using degeneration spells, despite of Smite hex, plus radiation field maybe...

Did you try with smooth criminal + pstone ?